I’m addressing this broad topic today because I want to shed some light on it. Still, it’s clear that a podcast can only provide a rough summary of what would actually fill entire books. But if this is meant for you—if you’re here today, listening, recognizing yourself at some point—then take away whatever touches your heart, whatever resonates within you with a “yes.”
There are some outdated notions of enlightenment that I don’t share. Since enlightened beings have been rather rare in our culture and we are more familiar with them from Far Eastern traditions, we tend to equate them with flying yogis or sages in the Himalayas who gather large groups around them and perform miracles. But these are just a few pieces of the puzzle; it is far from complete.
There were enlightened individuals in our culture as well, but they tended to keep to themselves, and their work was often disrupted by the Catholic Church. During the Inquisition, such people were even persecuted—and worse. Even today, there is still a kind of Inquisition, though it operates more subtly. Whenever anyone displayed outstanding wisdom or special abilities, history tells us it was a “Father So-and-so” or a nun. I don’t doubt for a moment that their statements and quotes were very carefully filtered for posterity so that they would fit into the Church’s general view of society and no one would step out of line. The same thing, of course, happened with the story of Jesus. So here, too, we are deliberately given only a few pieces of the puzzle—by no means the whole picture.
When we’re confronted with flying yogis and all those Far Eastern stories, it’s understandable that we can’t make sense of some things and can’t label our inner mental categories correctly. But when we awaken, we quickly realize that this path is open to us as well—that is, to every person in their own unique way. It’s really important to me to state this very clearly today, because we ourselves are often the ones who don’t believe it’s possible, simply because we have distorted ideas about it.
Enlightenment does not depend on religion, diet, or one's past.
It is part of our being and comes to the fore when we focus our attention on it.
On our own authentic journey, we reclaim the missing pieces of the puzzle and gradually come to understand the big picture. But first, let me explain the difference between awakening and enlightenment:
Awakening = Awakening from 3D sleep
Awakening is the turning point in your involution, the beginning of your ascent, the turning toward the light. Awakening means that your consciousness has awakened, that you are no longer asleep. Awakening is the transition and expansion of your consciousness into 4D; the veils are gradually lifting. It is the realization that we are much more than our bodies, that history is much more than what we learned in school, and that time behaves differently than we have previously assumed. Awakening is the choice to live the light within us, to nurture love, and to serve the truth.
Enlightenment is perfect clarity
Enlightenment is—in short—the state of consciousness that arises when we are fully immersed in the light. When we have illuminated and integrated our inner shadows to such an extent that only light remains. When we not only reach 5D in brief peak states, but sustain it for longer periods. This does not mean, however, that we have already reached the end of our journey, for even in the higher dimensions we continue to evolve—only no longer through suffering and pain, illness and lies, illusion and limitation, but by increasingly living out our abilities and our divine I AM.
There are endless levels of exciting experiences, And this ongoing process of unfolding is far from over “just because we’re enlightened.” The way I see it, that’s when things really get started. Because now it’s truly joyful; now we understand the connections, see the big picture and our role as creators within it, and can truly play. Our creative power multiplies, and we experience clarity on all levels. And we use all of this for the good of the whole, consciously and guided by our hearts.
We can all attain the state of enlightenment,
if we really vote for him.
Because, strictly speaking, he's always there.
We've simply imposed a certain restriction on access,
which we can overcome once again.
SANDRA WEBER
The Path Between Awakening and Enlightenment
It’s probably one of the most exciting journeys we can experience in our personal development. From feelings of complete euphoria and ecstatic joy to setbacks and the sense of treading water, we boldly make our way through it all—sometimes with more confidence, sometimes with less—trusting that it all really does make sense. But as I always say, “the cream is out of the tube”; there’s no turning back, so we keep going. There are certainly many paths to enlightenment, but I know only this one, the one I’ve walked, and that’s why I can only describe it this way. Anyone who consciously works on themselves, as we do with THEKI, using truly meaningful tools that bring lasting liberation and transformation, will experience it in a more or less similar way:
For a while, working on these issues seems to make them multiply rather than diminish. When you turn on your inner spotlight and shine it into the dark corners of your mind, a few unexpected shadows still emerge. But little by little, it gets easier; things become calmer. Maybe before—let’s say—you had a hundred issues that were somehow weighing on you and triggering you. Ninety of them are quickly resolved; many are interconnected and dissolve just as quickly. Then you’re left with ten… for a while, these are a bit more stubborn; you discuss them, shed light on them… perhaps even work through them in groups… they start to dwindle… eventually, just one or two particularly stubborn issues remain. No punishments—no, rather the challenge to step fully out of the shadows now, to let go of everything you’re still clinging to, everything you still want to control, indeed everything you still define yourself by in some way. Whether positive or destructive, it doesn’t matter—you’re being asked to let go of all attachments. In a way, you’re preparing yourself to step into nothingness, to be nobody. You may not even be fully aware of it, but it’s happening. You’re surrendering more and more to what’s needed, wanting to control less and less.
And suddenly, just when you’ve stopped thinking about what life would be like without these issues, this unique transformation takes place—gently and almost imperceptibly—and it sets you completely free. You’ve let go of your old self, become “No One,” and in doing so, have rediscovered yourself in everything. That isn’t oneness; no, that’s the awareness behind it. You are eternal, and you’ve reclaimed this highest aspect of your perception.
So many things happen during this process—so many insights and visions, each completely unique and yet characteristic of this phase—that words can hardly describe them. It becomes quiet. There is peace. Your entire perspective changes once again.
You are not just part of the whole; no, you are the consciousness behind it. You are eternal. You have dissolved and found yourself again.
You don't have to spend forever working on yourself
So as you can see—and no matter where you are right now—things won’t stay the same forever. Yes, there is definitely an end to working through your own issues. Yes, we go through processes in which it’s important to understand things, to grasp connections, and to resolve underlying causes. To integrate the value of gratitude, forgiveness, and a clear focus on the desired direction—and to live them deeply. In this process, it’s so incredibly valuable to have access to tools that help you transform all of this in a structured and effective way. But little by little, as things settle down—when you ’re no longer just thinking about it but increasingly living and embodying it—you won’t need those tools anymore. You yourself, in your unbridled being, are the greatest, most important, and most powerful tool in your life! But only if you are fully in your power. Until then—and of course beyond that, if you wish—THEKI helps you to truly free yourself, to unfold, to discover, and to enlighten yourself.
When I hear other colleagues, spiritual teachers, or podcasters say that we’re not here to be enlightened, I completely understand what they mean—but I still wish they wouldn’t present everything from their own personal journey as a universal truth, because by doing so they reach so many people and, in a way, limit them. Because, quite honestly: Everyone can only perceive what they know, what they’ve experienced, and what corresponds to their vibrational level. Those who haven’t walked the path to its end can, logically, only speak from their own insights gained during their own development process. These insights are undoubtedly “true” at these stages, but they’re still colored and clouded by their own limitations.
Why am I bringing this up? Certainly not to put others down. I’m talking about you. About all the people who are on their own individual paths and may currently feel like they’re stagnating or stuck. Or who may even be experiencing a sense of meaninglessness (I’ll get into that in more detail in a moment).
Enlightenment vs. Being Human
I want to encourage you to think bigger. Yes, to expand into your full greatness—into all your possibilities, into your entire being, yes, into the enlightened part of you that always exists, that MUST exist, because we are multidimensional beings and are therefore always conscious in all dimensions. Our soul is at home in all dimensions; it is divine and eternal. When it decides to incarnate in a human being, this comes with certain conditions, influences, and limitations, yet it is still Everything—even while inhabiting this body and experiencing these limitations (explained in greater depth in the book and seminar *SOUL POWER*).
We are both enlightened AND human. One does not exclude the other. We do not become more human when we are unenlightened, nor do we become more divine when we are enlightened. We are always everything, whether we realize it and live it consciously or not. We cannot be just one or the other; from a higher perspective, this separation is completely nonsensical.
So the point is that we are surrounded by dogmas surrounding these issues, which need to be scrutinized, weeded out, and set straight so that we can see clearly again.
Enlightenment and being human are not contradictions; they are ONE.
Dogmas as Barriers to Access
And this barrier to access is repeatedly confirmed by people—teachers, podcasters—who are unfamiliar with the state of complete freedom and therefore assume that it doesn’t exist, or at least that it cannot exist for the “average person.”
Yes, we are here to explore what it means to be human in all its possible forms, feelings, and intensities. But who decides when we have explored enough and become conscious enough to be considered enlightened?
Do you seriously believe that this is possible only for religious figures, Far Eastern teachers, podcast prophets, or perhaps no one at all? Or that enlightened beings existed only hundreds or thousands of years ago? Do you really believe that there are no enlightened beings among all the housewives, homeless people, children, students, roofers, parking attendants, and so on? Do you believe that YOU cannot be enlightened?
How can you even tell? By their eyes? By the way they look at you? By their words? By their clothes, jewelry, diet, success, fame, or stories?
Let me tell you that an enlightened person is often much more unassuming than you might think. An enlightened person cares very little about all those things that were generally just steps along their own path, but weren’t necessarily maintained all the way to the goal. An enlightened person goes through all kinds of phases—whether it’s nutrition or other fields of study—and these paths are entirely individual. That’s why none of these points really apply, because some enlightened people have practiced Far Eastern methods and exhibit different abilities and characteristics than Western enlightened people, whose enlightenment often took place in quiet seclusion, entirely within themselves.
An enlightened person is, quite simply, truthful.
At a certain point, he had a very important experience:
Nothing matters.
I've already talked about this on other podcasts, for example, on the podcast “The Deaths of the Ego.”
The realization that everything is of equal importance brings incredible serenity. It relaxes everything. It brings balance and peace. At the same time, this realization can only come once a great deal of inner balance is already present. Everything is a mirror: as within, so without; as without, so within.
If you don’t take yourself so seriously—if you don’t feel you always have to react, defend yourself, express yourself, or present yourself in a certain way—then you also don’t take others so seriously. This isn’t ignorance, but a deep inner peace that creates this sense of equanimity. You are free from triggers, free from habitual reactions. You no longer let external circumstances throw you off balance; instead, you can observe and accept situations without your own expectations or judgments. You don’t have to react hastily or emotionally, but can make conscious decisions based on higher values.
Yes, and precisely because everything is indifferent, everything is also divine. From this higher, enlightened, all-encompassing perspective, it cannot be any other way—even if a mind still operating in 3/4D cannot understand that. It is simply the case that we can only attain unity once we have completely overcome duality. And what does that mean, in turn? It means having become free of judgment. You see, you recognize, you understand. Nothing more. There is nothing that judges. There is nothing that fights. Nothing that resists. Everything is. Everything is allowed to be. Everything makes sense. Everything is indifferent.
Who am I,
when adventure and peace,
devotion and security,
excitement and serenity
are all allowed to dance within me on equal footing?
Who am I,
when everything is allowed to be indifferent
and love is hidden precisely in that?
When I live my true essence?
Who am I, then?
SANDRA WEBER
If everything makes sense, nothing makes sense
With that, I’d like to turn now to the topic of meaninglessness, which everyone experiences at a certain point along this path. I know this phase well, because it troubled me for quite a while. You know, when you’ve been walking this path for years—knowing that everything makes sense, that everything has a cause and effect, that everything offers fascinating connections, stories you can dive into so deeply that the sense of meaning often blows you away—then for a long time, that’s also what drives you to get to the bottom of even more things. To look even further behind the scenes, everywhere—to uncover, see through, and expose. And yes, that’s totally important and good, and a meaningful motivation. But once you’ve understood and transformed enough, and your vibration has reached a level where that “everything is indifferent” realization sets in, it can completely throw you off track. And that, too, is good. Because if everything is indifferent, then the following also applies:
If everything makes sense, then nothing makes sense.
It sounds simple, but at this level it packs quite a punch because it compels you to look into meaninglessness right now. To surrender to meaninglessness. If nothing makes sense, how does that feel? Was there perhaps a personal definition of meaning that you can now let go of?
It can feel like a void, a huge hole you’re falling into, after all that work of clearing things up and gaining insight. This “nothingness” that opens up. That invites you into meaninglessness, into emptiness, into your own insignificance. Because that is precisely the path. As I said before:
Have the courage to be a nobody, because then you are everything.
Fortunately, at this stage, you’ve already come so far in your own development that you can accept this just fine. So nothing makes sense—okay. Or everything. Whatever. 🙂 Consciousness is simply conquering a new realm of possibilities, an expanded perspective, free from duality.
That brings us to the next topic I'd like to discuss:
Justice
If everything is equally valid, what is still considered just or unjust? Who determines what is just? What is just and what is unjust in the first place, if one perceives all the different perspectives simultaneously and as equally valid?
Justice can never truly be grasped by ordinary reason. Rather, justice is a prism through which you view a situation that appears to be a certain way. When you rotate this prism, an infinite number of patterns and colors unfold—comparable to all the other incarnations and generations through which karma and dharma have come into being. An infinite number of stories, facets, and emotions accumulate in a single situation—one that can never be fully grasped unless we are able to perceive EVERYTHING.
We live in a time when we can resolve old karma more quickly than was possible for hundreds, even thousands, of years. This is connected to the rising vibration that I’ve discussed in all the podcasts on the ascension process and written about in my second book, *INVOLUTION*. In this one life, right here and now, we can experience and reach levels that were previously inaccessible to us. That is why this incarnation is so particularly valuable—but for many people, and especially during these phases, it can also feel surreal and exhausting.
By working on ourselves—by transforming our traumas, limitations, feelings of guilt, and so on—and through the freedom that becomes increasingly evident as a result, we also free ourselves from judgments about what is right and wrong, what makes sense and what does not, and what is just and what is not. All of this is part of a three-dimensional way of seeing and perceiving that we no longer subscribe to; we have outgrown it.
We don't administer justice.
We don't have to ensure justice.
Life, in its infinite wisdom, sees to that.
It's so liberating to have let go of all that.
Recognize the limiting dogmas
Whenever you want to label someone, you’re succumbing to a dogma. If you believe you can recognize an enlightened person by certain characteristics, there are many pitfalls. One of them, for example, is
An enlightened person loves everything and everyone
In a way, that’s true. But it’s a love that transcends the personal—one that doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with the person and their current state of being. Here, too, there are often misunderstandings because the whole concept of spirituality is frequently reduced to a one-size-fits-all mishmash. Someone who is enlightened recognizes the divine in everyone. They love that divine core; it simply cannot be any other way. To be this love itself also means loving everything and everyone on a soul level , precisely because the divine dwells in all things. However, that does not mean that one personally loves—or even has to love—everyone. It is precisely through this clarity that one also sees the many attachments, the unredeemed patterns and programs, and how little of the soul shines through in some people (a more detailed explanation of this topic can be found in the book and seminar *SEELENKRAFT*).
This “wishy-washy” spirituality suggests that if you love everyone and everything, you must also be loving—or, let’s say, “soft-hearted”—toward everyone and everything in every situation. But sometimes love actually means not interacting with those dark aspects—until the person in question has understood what’s at stake, that is, until they awaken and begin to free themselves from those aspects.
An enlightened person never closes the door on another soul, but it is a natural consequence of their clarity to strengthen the power of the soul rather than the shadows. Therefore, they will continue to be there, offering clear guidance and doing other things. However, they will not subject themselves to exhausting discussions, because they no longer see any purpose in them.
An enlightened person will not try to convince anyone, either, because they realize that everyone else can only perceive them at the level at which they themselves resonate. They will therefore always radiate the message that everyone is free to follow their own path and will not pass judgment.
He doesn't know everything, either, and can't answer every question you have. He's not a quantum computer, not Superman; he can't climb walls like Spider-Man, fly, or walk through closed doors. He's a perfectly normal person with an enlightened consciousness. He knows what's important for him to know and has no artificial motivation to know everything just to please everyone.
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There are still so many dogmas worth mentioning, but I don’t want to go off on a tangent here. You’ve surely encountered many of them yourself, in the form of spiritual limitations—such as health, nutrition, relationships, and so on. A lot is said in the spiritual world that generally contains some truth, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the ultimate truth for everyone.
The most important thing is honesty. I have a podcast on this topic, too—feel free to give it a listen.
An enlightened person cares little about his enlightenment, for that, too, would be something by which he would define himself—something he no longer does. He simply IS. He is no one—and everything. On the path to that point, they have gathered many pieces of the puzzle, but as soon as the puzzle was complete, it was no longer important. That is why, among enlightened people, you will actually find individuals who do not live by spiritual standards at all—who are not at all “perfect” or “holy”—but who are refreshingly authentic. They are grounded, loving, and clear. They don’t need to convince anyone—neither of their knowledge, nor of their abilities, their worldview, or their enlightenment. They know full well that the person they’re speaking to can only ever perceive and understand things at their own vibrational level, so trying to do so would be pointless anyway. And it doesn’t matter either way.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for sticking with me this far, and I’m glad if this podcast has been meaningful to you. It’s wonderful that you’re here, and that we’re on this journey together—perhaps walking part of the way side by side.
I'd like to repeat the quote from earlier to wrap up today, and I'd like to end by asking you one very personal question:
Who am I,
when adventure and peace,
devotion and security,
excitement and serenity
are all allowed to dance within me on equal footing?
Who am I,
when everything is allowed to be indifferent
and love is hidden precisely in that?
When I live my true essence?
Who am I, then?
SANDRA WEBER
Are you up for it?
If so, feel free to make this question your daily mantra and see what happens:
“Who am I when I am enlightened?”
